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	<description>Nick Ramsay blogging from Gifu, Japan.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1178</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I've met a few JETs. I actually applied for the program myself but didn't even get an interview! In fact, that prompted me to just come to Japan and find a job here, which I did, and I've always been kind of relieved that JET turned me down.

It's funny you should mention Spanish. One of my students has just started kindergarten and he has Spanish lessons once a week. No English, just Spanish. His mother is as confused as I am. I could understand a need for Portuguese with so many Brazilians in our area, but Spanish? Apparently he won't start English until he's 4 years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve met a few JETs. I actually applied for the program myself but didn&#8217;t even get an interview! In fact, that prompted me to just come to Japan and find a job here, which I did, and I&#8217;ve always been kind of relieved that JET turned me down.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny you should mention Spanish. One of my students has just started kindergarten and he has Spanish lessons once a week. No English, just Spanish. His mother is as confused as I am. I could understand a need for Portuguese with so many Brazilians in our area, but Spanish? Apparently he won&#8217;t start English until he&#8217;s 4 years old.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1177</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only you knew how regularly I used Google to check my English spelling. Ten years in Japan and you forget how to spell. Fact!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only you knew how regularly I used Google to check my English spelling. Ten years in Japan and you forget how to spell. Fact!</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember getting lost at Incheon airport. I couldn't find the right John!

Am I right in thinking "zone" in Konglish is pronounced "John"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember getting lost at Incheon airport. I couldn&#8217;t find the right John!</p>
<p>Am I right in thinking &#8220;zone&#8221; in Konglish is pronounced &#8220;John&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1174</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a challenge, but it's fun, too. They are all good-spirited students and are often fascinated in learning the English versions of their "Japlish".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a challenge, but it&#8217;s fun, too. They are all good-spirited students and are often fascinated in learning the English versions of their &#8220;Japlish&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: KendraL</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1173</link>
		<dc:creator>KendraL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

I'm really enjoying your blog!  My mother used to teach Spanish to migrant farmworkers and found a similar problem since many of her students were at totally different proficiency levels...then they'd move on after the season and there would be a whole new "crop" of students.

She also taught Spanish to Japanese students... if you think teaching English to them is funny, try imagining a bunch of high school Japanese girls trying to speak Spanish!

I originally applied for the JET program out of college, but my plans had to change.  Do you know of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying your blog!  My mother used to teach Spanish to migrant farmworkers and found a similar problem since many of her students were at totally different proficiency levels&#8230;then they&#8217;d move on after the season and there would be a whole new &#8220;crop&#8221; of students.</p>
<p>She also taught Spanish to Japanese students&#8230; if you think teaching English to them is funny, try imagining a bunch of high school Japanese girls trying to speak Spanish!</p>
<p>I originally applied for the JET program out of college, but my plans had to change.  Do you know of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1168</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 08:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick, I feel we are all in "W trouble" trying to teach English haa haa haa.
Hey I have become Japanese because today I went and saw Jodie and Toshi's
beautiful new baby boy and on the card I bought them, I wrote "Dear Toshi, Jodie,
Alisa and Rilica" 
Do you see the problem???? I wrote Lilica with a bloody "R" aaaaaaaaah what has become
of me aaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Loved the poem!!!!
Cheers Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick, I feel we are all in &#8220;W trouble&#8221; trying to teach English haa haa haa.<br />
Hey I have become Japanese because today I went and saw Jodie and Toshi&#8217;s<br />
beautiful new baby boy and on the card I bought them, I wrote &#8220;Dear Toshi, Jodie,<br />
Alisa and Rilica&#8221;<br />
Do you see the problem???? I wrote Lilica with a bloody &#8220;R&#8221; aaaaaaaaah what has become<br />
of me aaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
Loved the poem!!!!<br />
Cheers Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 20:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick - it certainly sounds like a challenge, even more so than it would be for someone taking an introductory course in Japanese here in North America for example, because they haven't already learned bad habits in speaking the new language.  Except when they try to apply rules and pronunciation from their native language into the new language they're learning.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick - it certainly sounds like a challenge, even more so than it would be for someone taking an introductory course in Japanese here in North America for example, because they haven&#8217;t already learned bad habits in speaking the new language.  Except when they try to apply rules and pronunciation from their native language into the new language they&#8217;re learning.  <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 01:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was awesome! I had a good laugh at the W~~ and I totally know what you mean! lol. I watch/listen to a lot of Japanese shows, dramas, and music, as well as Korean entertainment--I'm half Korean--so I've heard a lot of Engrish/Japlish/Konglish. :P I still find the W thing so funny... lol. I think I might start using it now! W thumbs up! XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was awesome! I had a good laugh at the W~~ and I totally know what you mean! lol. I watch/listen to a lot of Japanese shows, dramas, and music, as well as Korean entertainment&#8211;I&#8217;m half Korean&#8211;so I&#8217;ve heard a lot of Engrish/Japlish/Konglish. <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> I still find the W thing so funny&#8230; lol. I think I might start using it now! W thumbs up! XD</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 11:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great comment Emma, sorry about the orange juice stains!

I had a look at the Wikipedia entry for Dunglish. The word Dung means animal excrement, which makes it much funnier than our equivalent Japlish.

It's amazing to read that English spoken movies aren't dubbed or subtitled. The Japanese even subtitle their own language just in case someone can't understand what they are saying!

I would agree that it's hard for Japanese English students to shake off Japlish, but since most of them aren't aware that what they are saying isn't real English, I think they are just confused when we don't understand them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great comment Emma, sorry about the orange juice stains!</p>
<p>I had a look at the Wikipedia entry for Dunglish. The word Dung means animal excrement, which makes it much funnier than our equivalent Japlish.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing to read that English spoken movies aren&#8217;t dubbed or subtitled. The Japanese even subtitle their own language just in case someone can&#8217;t understand what they are saying!</p>
<p>I would agree that it&#8217;s hard for Japanese English students to shake off Japlish, but since most of them aren&#8217;t aware that what they are saying isn&#8217;t real English, I think they are just confused when we don&#8217;t understand them!</p>
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		<title>By: Emma in Amsterdam</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/05/13/double-without-you/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma in Amsterdam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 10:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read your post to my boyfriend, who unfortunately at the same time tried to swallow a big sip of our brunch-orange juice. Thanks for a good laugh!

In Holland we have our own difficulties with the English language. Up until a few years ago, you would only get two-three hours per week in high school, but at least you'd be taught by someone with a master's degree in English.

Since the 90's, most children are first being taught by their primary school teachers, from the age of 10 onwards. This means we have an earlier access to learning English, but not necessarily a better understanding to begin with.

I'm afraid that eventhough my generation is much better educated than my grandparents' or even my parents' (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunglish" title="Steenkolenengels" rel="external" rel="nofollow"&gt; please read&lt;/a&gt;), I still make silly mistakes that I won't notice until a native speaker tells me (but they're always way too polite to say so). 

I wish I'd had a native speaker around to learn from when I was in school. Now it's so hard to get rid of my Dutch accent and avoid sounding like I just translated something in stead of actually thinking it in English.

I can't imagine how hard it must be for your Japanese students!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read your post to my boyfriend, who unfortunately at the same time tried to swallow a big sip of our brunch-orange juice. Thanks for a good laugh!</p>
<p>In Holland we have our own difficulties with the English language. Up until a few years ago, you would only get two-three hours per week in high school, but at least you&#8217;d be taught by someone with a master&#8217;s degree in English.</p>
<p>Since the 90&#8217;s, most children are first being taught by their primary school teachers, from the age of 10 onwards. This means we have an earlier access to learning English, but not necessarily a better understanding to begin with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that eventhough my generation is much better educated than my grandparents&#8217; or even my parents&#8217; (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunglish" title="Steenkolenengels" rel="external" rel="nofollow"> please read</a>), I still make silly mistakes that I won&#8217;t notice until a native speaker tells me (but they&#8217;re always way too polite to say so). </p>
<p>I wish I&#8217;d had a native speaker around to learn from when I was in school. Now it&#8217;s so hard to get rid of my Dutch accent and avoid sounding like I just translated something in stead of actually thinking it in English.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine how hard it must be for your Japanese students!</p>
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