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	<description>Nick Ramsay blogging from Gifu, Japan.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kyo nomed</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-6561</link>
		<dc:creator>kyo nomed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well even tho no exact 'terrorist' of another country has attacked I personaly consider the United stats bombings Terrorism. I am going to be trying to get into Japan legaly and get a long term visa then a citizenship, but if I have problems with getting that witch I hear its hard to do I will be a illegal as well and likely join the YAKUZA for since they care not and provide housing and money with no questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well even tho no exact &#8216;terrorist&#8217; of another country has attacked I personaly consider the United stats bombings Terrorism. I am going to be trying to get into Japan legaly and get a long term visa then a citizenship, but if I have problems with getting that witch I hear its hard to do I will be a illegal as well and likely join the YAKUZA for since they care not and provide housing and money with no questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Fanny</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-5044</link>
		<dc:creator>Fanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mayra Payes Carrillo 
Aliases: Guera
DESCRIPTION
Date of Birth: Octuber 06, 1978 
Height: 5’2” 
Weight: 160 pounds 
Eyes: Green 
Hair: Brown 
Sex: Female 
Race: White/Hispanic 
Nationality: Guatemala 
NCIC Number:  No have documentation, 
Occupation: No 
Scars and Marks: Mayra alias Guera has a tattoo of a roses in the arms right. 
CAUTION
Is gang member
Does not carry document has problems with the law, is extremely violent, to be careful.  “once or twice carries firearm or I puncture cutting”
Possible address where itself to seen
5214 S. San Pedro St. Los Angeles CA. 90011</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayra Payes Carrillo<br />
Aliases: Guera<br />
DESCRIPTION<br />
Date of Birth: Octuber 06, 1978<br />
Height: 5’2”<br />
Weight: 160 pounds<br />
Eyes: Green<br />
Hair: Brown<br />
Sex: Female<br />
Race: White/Hispanic<br />
Nationality: Guatemala<br />
NCIC Number:  No have documentation,<br />
Occupation: No<br />
Scars and Marks: Mayra alias Guera has a tattoo of a roses in the arms right.<br />
CAUTION<br />
Is gang member<br />
Does not carry document has problems with the law, is extremely violent, to be careful.  “once or twice carries firearm or I puncture cutting”<br />
Possible address where itself to seen<br />
5214 S. San Pedro St. Los Angeles CA. 90011</p>
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		<title>By: zichi</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2967</link>
		<dc:creator>zichi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a Permanent Resident of Japan, from the UK and have lived here since 1994. Japan has never been attacked by foreign terrorists and if such attack is likely it will happen overseas. Japan has been attacked by home grown terrorists. The introduction of fingerprinting is against the Japanese Constitution which affords protection to all peoples who are in Japan and not just Japanese nationals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Permanent Resident of Japan, from the UK and have lived here since 1994. Japan has never been attacked by foreign terrorists and if such attack is likely it will happen overseas. Japan has been attacked by home grown terrorists. The introduction of fingerprinting is against the Japanese Constitution which affords protection to all peoples who are in Japan and not just Japanese nationals.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2829</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! You're the perfect example to show how some Japanese are exploiting foreign workers, and then the foreigners get blamed and fingerprinted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! You&#8217;re the perfect example to show how some Japanese are exploiting foreign workers, and then the foreigners get blamed and fingerprinted!</p>
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		<title>By: leandro ramos</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2827</link>
		<dc:creator>leandro ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im afilipino over stayed in japan twice ,i came in japan twice using different names bec. of my japanese employer,i work as welder in big refineries my other co.workers japanese receive double of my salary who is the criminal me or my japanese employer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im afilipino over stayed in japan twice ,i came in japan twice using different names bec. of my japanese employer,i work as welder in big refineries my other co.workers japanese receive double of my salary who is the criminal me or my japanese employer</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2807</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, not even permanent residents can vote. I wouldn't say we're completely powerless, but from this comment it sounds like it would be almost impossible to get the decision changed anytime soon.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Lim Young-Ki, a representative of the Korean Youth Association in Japan, pointed out how ethnic Koreans had fought for decades until the 2000 abolition of fingerprinting on Alien Registration Certificates only to see the process revived through the back door now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It'll never happen, but can you imagine how silly Japan would look if the US abolished its own US-VISIT program? There would be public outrage! The only reason this has been given the go ahead is because it's being done in the States, and that's supposed to make it okay. :???:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, not even permanent residents can vote. I wouldn&#8217;t say we&#8217;re completely powerless, but from this comment it sounds like it would be almost impossible to get the decision changed anytime soon.</p>
<blockquote><p>Lim Young-Ki, a representative of the Korean Youth Association in Japan, pointed out how ethnic Koreans had fought for decades until the 2000 abolition of fingerprinting on Alien Registration Certificates only to see the process revived through the back door now.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;ll never happen, but can you imagine how silly Japan would look if the US abolished its own US-VISIT program? There would be public outrage! The only reason this has been given the go ahead is because it&#8217;s being done in the States, and that&#8217;s supposed to make it okay. <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ジェイソン (Jason)</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2806</link>
		<dc:creator>ジェイソン (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Nick.  I haven't been to Debito's site before, and it has a good amount of information.  There are an incredible number of people that are quite upset with the fingerprinting issue, but I doubt the government will consider repealing the issue anytime soon.

How many of us non-Japanese can actually vote?  Our displeasure means jack all to those in power right now.

That said, if a bunch of natives stood up and said "We're tired of having a racist government", then it might get some attention.

Either way, I'm okay with it for now.  Ask me again if I have trouble re-entering the country, though :???:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Nick.  I haven&#8217;t been to Debito&#8217;s site before, and it has a good amount of information.  There are an incredible number of people that are quite upset with the fingerprinting issue, but I doubt the government will consider repealing the issue anytime soon.</p>
<p>How many of us non-Japanese can actually vote?  Our displeasure means jack all to those in power right now.</p>
<p>That said, if a bunch of natives stood up and said &#8220;We&#8217;re tired of having a racist government&#8221;, then it might get some attention.</p>
<p>Either way, I&#8217;m okay with it for now.  Ask me again if I have trouble re-entering the country, though <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2803</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jason, it's kind of sad that you've only just settled in Japan, and you get to experience a real low point for us foreigners. Arudou Debito said "In all my twenty years of Japan, I’ve never seen the NJ (Non-Japanese) communities so angry."

If you don't know Debito, I highly recommend you take a look through his site, and you might be particulalrly interested in reading his post "&lt;a href="http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=774" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yomiuri &#038; Nikkei trumpet 5 NJ snagged by Fingerprinting system. Sankei says FP system not snagger&lt;/a&gt;" in which he says the 5 people "snagged" on the first day of fingerprinting, weren't actually caught by the fingerprinting machine itself, but by traditional means. 

Love your last paragraph. You are so right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jason, it&#8217;s kind of sad that you&#8217;ve only just settled in Japan, and you get to experience a real low point for us foreigners. Arudou Debito said &#8220;In all my twenty years of Japan, I’ve never seen the NJ (Non-Japanese) communities so angry.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t know Debito, I highly recommend you take a look through his site, and you might be particulalrly interested in reading his post &#8220;<a href="http://www.debito.org/index.php/?p=774" rel="nofollow">Yomiuri &#038; Nikkei trumpet 5 NJ snagged by Fingerprinting system. Sankei says FP system not snagger</a>&#8221; in which he says the 5 people &#8220;snagged&#8221; on the first day of fingerprinting, weren&#8217;t actually caught by the fingerprinting machine itself, but by traditional means. </p>
<p>Love your last paragraph. You are so right.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2007/11/24/illegal-immigrants-reason-for-fingerprinting-non-japanese/#comment-2802</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might have been a bit unfair with that line about the MoJ. It's probably as simple as "if you're on the list, you're not coming in", but there have been stories of political activists on no-fly lists in the States, so who knows what the minimum crime is to get on the list? A parking ticket? Yikes! :shock:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might have been a bit unfair with that line about the MoJ. It&#8217;s probably as simple as &#8220;if you&#8217;re on the list, you&#8217;re not coming in&#8221;, but there have been stories of political activists on no-fly lists in the States, so who knows what the minimum crime is to get on the list? A parking ticket? Yikes! <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ジェイソン (Jason)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ジェイソン (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, with Japanese pride in the way, 1 illegal immigrant would be an "unbearable number".  Such is the life of Japanese politicians who surround themselves with people who can actually tolerate the monotony of nothingness that is politics in this country.  Experts that actually know things have real jobs :P

To be completely honest, I'm surprised that anything gets done in a nation that has only 3 competent elected leaders and 180+ dolts who embezzle, take bribes, bitch, moan or otherwise waste our time and tax money.  I used to think that Canadian politicians were a pretty sorry bunch, but Japan has upped the ante :???:

All that said, you're right that fingerprinting will do nothing to prevent people from illegally entering this country.  Instead, it'll just turn away the ones that had been previously deported and have now returned with a new or fake passport.  Fingerprinting will, however, catch the few criminals that try to get into the country through regular means of passage.

Since Tuesday, the system has already caught 1 person known to have ties to Al Queda, three people previously deported and barred from re-entry, and two people on Interpol's wanted list.

This will do nothing to stop someone who entered legally from staying past their visa and disappearing in the crowds, nor will this stop people who pay to get in through the yakuza, but it's a great PR opportunity for the country and if they can stop even a handful of people (which they already have), then they'll claim it a complete success.

It's unfortunate that this country is full of idiot leaders that have no concept of tact or proper phrasing.  One would think that with a language as eloquent as Japanese, the leaders would have tacit canned responses for almost every controversial law passed.  Sadly, they're too busy accepting gifts from corporate sponsors to learn effective language skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, with Japanese pride in the way, 1 illegal immigrant would be an &#8220;unbearable number&#8221;.  Such is the life of Japanese politicians who surround themselves with people who can actually tolerate the monotony of nothingness that is politics in this country.  Experts that actually know things have real jobs <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To be completely honest, I&#8217;m surprised that anything gets done in a nation that has only 3 competent elected leaders and 180+ dolts who embezzle, take bribes, bitch, moan or otherwise waste our time and tax money.  I used to think that Canadian politicians were a pretty sorry bunch, but Japan has upped the ante <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All that said, you&#8217;re right that fingerprinting will do nothing to prevent people from illegally entering this country.  Instead, it&#8217;ll just turn away the ones that had been previously deported and have now returned with a new or fake passport.  Fingerprinting will, however, catch the few criminals that try to get into the country through regular means of passage.</p>
<p>Since Tuesday, the system has already caught 1 person known to have ties to Al Queda, three people previously deported and barred from re-entry, and two people on Interpol&#8217;s wanted list.</p>
<p>This will do nothing to stop someone who entered legally from staying past their visa and disappearing in the crowds, nor will this stop people who pay to get in through the yakuza, but it&#8217;s a great PR opportunity for the country and if they can stop even a handful of people (which they already have), then they&#8217;ll claim it a complete success.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that this country is full of idiot leaders that have no concept of tact or proper phrasing.  One would think that with a language as eloquent as Japanese, the leaders would have tacit canned responses for almost every controversial law passed.  Sadly, they&#8217;re too busy accepting gifts from corporate sponsors to learn effective language skills.</p>
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