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	<title>Comments on: See Spam on JapanSoc? Bury It!</title>
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	<description>Nick Ramsay blogging from Gifu, Japan.</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris B</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3445</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank GOD that has not happened!!
It seems to be maturing at a nice rate. When time permts I'll try to contribute more articles. I have a  few blogs I read that have not been soc'd so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank GOD that has not happened!!<br />
It seems to be maturing at a nice rate. When time permts I&#8217;ll try to contribute more articles. I have a  few blogs I read that have not been soc&#8217;d so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3439</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to hear that Jason. I think we've got a good crowd of users who are genuinely interested in similar things. It could have easily gone the &lt;i&gt;otaku&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;gravure idols&lt;/i&gt; route, but what we have now is really quite unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear that Jason. I think we&#8217;ve got a good crowd of users who are genuinely interested in similar things. It could have easily gone the <i>otaku</i> or <i>gravure idols</i> route, but what we have now is really quite unique.</p>
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		<title>By: Deas</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3436</link>
		<dc:creator>Deas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mwa ha ha ha - I have been given the green light at last. Release the hounds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mwa ha ha ha - I have been given the green light at last. Release the hounds!</p>
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		<title>By: ジェイソン (Jason)</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3435</link>
		<dc:creator>ジェイソン (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little off topic, but JapanSoc has quickly become one of my favourite social media sites.  I would never have found some of the quality blogs out there regarding Japanese politics and odd news without it.

Thanks for making it possible, Nick!  I'll be sure to treat you to coffee when we finally get together :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic, but JapanSoc has quickly become one of my favourite social media sites.  I would never have found some of the quality blogs out there regarding Japanese politics and odd news without it.</p>
<p>Thanks for making it possible, Nick!  I&#8217;ll be sure to treat you to coffee when we finally get together <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ジェイソン (Jason)</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3434</link>
		<dc:creator>ジェイソン (Jason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The points here are pretty solid, but if I were a SEO "professional" who made his living by submitting sites to social media sites, I wouldn't limit myself to just one login or IP.  Sure, I would use the net connection at my home or work, but there are lots of people that don't protect their wireless networks from the general public.

There are also lots of places that offer wireless internet, either for free or a semi-reasonable price (unless you're in Vancouver), so banning an IP doesn't really do much to prevent a particular person from doing what they're going to do.  This can also backfire pretty bad if the IP you're banning belongs to a library or school.  One bad apple could effectively destroy a great resource for people in search of information.

While there are lots of ways Nick could make it harder for spammers to use JapanSoc, any change would also make it hard for new and current members to post articles.

But, that said, we Soc'ers will no doubt bury anything that isn't worthy of submission to Japan's best English social media site.  Don't worry, Nick, we're on the case :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The points here are pretty solid, but if I were a SEO &#8220;professional&#8221; who made his living by submitting sites to social media sites, I wouldn&#8217;t limit myself to just one login or IP.  Sure, I would use the net connection at my home or work, but there are lots of people that don&#8217;t protect their wireless networks from the general public.</p>
<p>There are also lots of places that offer wireless internet, either for free or a semi-reasonable price (unless you&#8217;re in Vancouver), so banning an IP doesn&#8217;t really do much to prevent a particular person from doing what they&#8217;re going to do.  This can also backfire pretty bad if the IP you&#8217;re banning belongs to a library or school.  One bad apple could effectively destroy a great resource for people in search of information.</p>
<p>While there are lots of ways Nick could make it harder for spammers to use JapanSoc, any change would also make it hard for new and current members to post articles.</p>
<p>But, that said, we Soc&#8217;ers will no doubt bury anything that isn&#8217;t worthy of submission to Japan&#8217;s best English social media site.  Don&#8217;t worry, Nick, we&#8217;re on the case <img src='http://www.longcountdown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3430</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah I completely forgot you had to register to submit, I'm always logged in. The current spammers have been very dedicated then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah I completely forgot you had to register to submit, I&#8217;m always logged in. The current spammers have been very dedicated then.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Ramsay</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3429</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you're a spammer...

1. You have to register
2. You have to enter a Captcha (to prove you're human)
3. Your submission goes into the queue (upcoming stories)
4. You have to avoid users burying it into deletion
5. Hope Nick doesn't "killspam" you (delete spam and disable user)
6. Hope Nick doesn't block your IP from accessing the site

The great thing about social bookmarking is that the upcoming stories queue acts as a filter, preventing spam from flooding the front page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you&#8217;re a spammer&#8230;</p>
<p>1. You have to register<br />
2. You have to enter a Captcha (to prove you&#8217;re human)<br />
3. Your submission goes into the queue (upcoming stories)<br />
4. You have to avoid users burying it into deletion<br />
5. Hope Nick doesn&#8217;t &#8220;killspam&#8221; you (delete spam and disable user)<br />
6. Hope Nick doesn&#8217;t block your IP from accessing the site</p>
<p>The great thing about social bookmarking is that the upcoming stories queue acts as a filter, preventing spam from flooding the front page.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3428</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed a CSS related post the other day and buried it. I'll keep doing so. I'm surprised there isn't more spam to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed a CSS related post the other day and buried it. I&#8217;ll keep doing so. I&#8217;m surprised there isn&#8217;t more spam to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Contamination</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3427</link>
		<dc:creator>Contamination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you know you just have to email me a list of files you want me to soc or bury and I will obey your command!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you know you just have to email me a list of files you want me to soc or bury and I will obey your command!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.longcountdown.com/2008/02/21/see-spam-on-japansoc-bury-it/#comment-3426</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Bury the spam, non relevant, junk. If it's related to the social bookmarking site my opinion is that's fine. If it's not relevant then... "moving on!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Bury the spam, non relevant, junk. If it&#8217;s related to the social bookmarking site my opinion is that&#8217;s fine. If it&#8217;s not relevant then&#8230; &#8220;moving on!&#8221;</p>
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