Posts Tagged: bank


29
Dec 06

Mortgage refused at the last minute.

December 20th should have been a historic day in our lives. The day we officially purchased and took ownership of our first house. However, what should have been a time of celebration turned out to be one of the worst days of our lives as Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Bank decided to screw us over by declining our request for a loan despite approving it two months previously.

The paperwork had all been completed and submitted to UFJ back in October, and was approved in mid-November. My wife and I, along with the seller, Mr. W, and two representatives from the real estate agency attended the meeting at UFJ on December 20th for what should have been a formality – receive loan, pay Mr. W, get keys.

After just 15 minutes, the meeting ended and a two hour argument ensued. Why? Because some of the application form for mortgage insurance was completed with my wife’s handwriting, not my own. Yep, we were refused a 20 million yen loan because of a difference in handwriting.

Sure enough, in the small print, it said that the form must be filled in by the applicant, so I have to accept some responsibility. I had filled in the important parts (painstakingly done in Japanese characters), while I had let Mami, my wife and guarantor for the loan, fill in the more trivial details.

The next two hours were horrible. The realization that arranging for the gas, electricity, water and phone to be disconnected in our apartment and subsequently connected in the house; the air conditioners to be taken out and reinstalled; the van I’d booked to move all our stuff; and the date that had been set to return the keys to our apartment. All of this would need undoing asap. I threw a wobbly and had to leave the building, punching and kicking the inside of the elevator on my way out.

I was in a state of total disbelief and after my wife called me back, I just ranted on about how ridiculous it was to deny the loan because of a difference in handwriting, despite agreeing with the information my wife had written and having stamped it with my official Japanese seal (equivalent of a signature).

By this time the bank manager had joined us and would do nothing other than ask me to rewrite the application there and then, and resubmit it. This would delay the process by five days. Obviously this didn’t help at all since that would leave us homeless – or at least without water, electricty and gas!

I wasn’t the only one furious at this, but for different reasons. Ms. U from the real estate agency was demanding cancellation fees from the bank and threatening court action. Not because of our handwriting error, but because UFJ themselves had not noticed the difference in handwriting when the papers were submitted in October and had already approved the loan, therefore UFJ should have been held responsible for the ‘error’.

Mr. W, the seller, who had taken the day off work to come to the bank, expecting to leave with 20 million yen, was equally baffled. He had arrived with the biggest smile on his face and shook my hand vigorously when we met in the lobby. I’ll never forget how that smile dropped like an A-bomb when he realized he’d be leaving empty handed.

What really made me mad was the bank manager’s incessant “Hmm, hmm, hmm, I’m awfully sorry, hmm, hmm, hmm, I’m awfully sorry” without making any attempt whatsoever to convince the loan company that the information on the application form was actually correct.

So, how did it all end? Well, Mr. W very kindly agreed to hand over the keys to his house despite not getting a penny of the money he was owed. I filled in the application form again (deliberately taking as long as possible to annoy the bank manager who had to wait), and we rescheduled the meeting for Christmas Day.

Thanks to Mr. W giving us the keys, we were able to continue as planned without having to reschedule the gas man and the rest. Christmas Day rolled around and we went back to the bank for a relatively smooth meeting in which Mr. W got his money, and Mami and I left as official homeowners.

Incidentally, the UFJ guy who we submitted all the documents to back in October was absent from both meetings. Both Mami and I hope he gets a good kick in the Christmas chestnuts for a mistake that caused us and others a lot of unnecessary stress.


15
Dec 06

Getting ready to move

A few months ago, I posted about buying a house and getting a mortgage in Japan. There were times when I didn’t think it would be possible without a permanent residency visa, but eventually we managed it… and we move next week!

If you’re thinking of buying a house in Japan, you might want to consider getting a mortgage through Mitsubishi Tokyo UFJ bank. They were the only bank that would give me a mortgage. As one of Japan’s biggest banks, I guess they can afford the risk. I had to prove that I had been in the same company for at least one year, and show proof that my earnings were enough to repay the mortgage. However, I think the fact that my wife is a qualified nurse helped a lot because she is in a position to get a job and finance the mortgage should the English teaching industry kick me out on my behind. So, although the house is in my name, Mami is the guarantor.

Anyway, I’m busy packing boxes for the move, and plan to do it all on one day. After originally planning to use my little Suzuki Wagon R, which would have taken more than 20 trips, I came to my senses (Thanks Mike!) and reserved a nice big “High Ace Van” for the 22nd. That should cut it down to just five or six trips I hope.

My biggest concern is getting our two air conditioners out. One company was recommended but they only service the local area, and I’m in a different city. I tried calling a couple of other companies but their schedules are full over the so-called ‘busy’ season. Incidentally, why is it that every season in Japan is ‘busy’ season? I mean seriously, ask anybody if they are busy these days and they’ll say yes! Anyway, I’m hoping that a friend of a friend of a friend can help me out….. but until I hear from him, I’m just waiting it out.

Cue Mariah Carey… “All I want for Christmas is… an electrician!”


14
Oct 06

Getting a mortgage in Japan

In What is Yakudoshi? I told you that Mami and I were looking for a house and being a foreigner, I might encounter some problems with getting a mortgage. This post is an update on that.

Assuming I wouldn’t be able to get a loan from a Japanese bank because I don’t yet have permanent residency, we took a break from house hunting for a while. However, we still got the odd fax from the real estate agent about new houses on the market. So, a couple of weeks ago I went to check one out. Although 15 years old, it seemed in pretty good condition and was in a very nice area so I took Mami to have a look later that day. She liked it too, so we made an appointment to see inside.

Five rooms plus a combined living room, dining room and kitchen, it is pretty big by Japanese standards. It has a small garden and parking for three cars. The inside was spotless with three beautiful tatami mat rooms, and fairly modern kitchen. We instantly knew it was the house we were looking for. Of course, at over 20 million yen, we still didn’t think they’d be any chance of getting a mortgage.

Surprise, surprise. After long discussions with the real estate agent, and having to produce every document under the sun, one bank has agreed to lend us the money. The mortage will be in my name, with Mami as guarantor. The fact that she is a qualified nurse has helped tremendously because she will always be able to find work to pay off the loan, in the unlikely event I did a runner!

Anyway, we’ve filled in the preliminary forms but will sit down and go through a stack of paper work with the bank and real estate agent in the next week or two to finalize the contract. Until that’s signed, I’m not shouting for joy yet.

Can a foreigner in Japan really get a mortgage without a permanent residency visa? Stay tuned!


23
Sep 06

What is Yakudoshi?

Over the last few months, Mami and I have been seriously saving for a house. We’ve visited a few but have yet to find one we’re happy with. While I knew that I might encounter problems getting a mortgage, I figured that because she is Japanese we would be okay… but it looks like it won’t be that easy.

Firstly, most banks won’t loan money to foreigners unless they have permanent residency status. While it varies from prefecture to prefecture, Gifu Immigration requires that you have been in Japan for ten years, or have been married to a Japanese national for at least three years. Well, it’s only been eight and a half years since I first got a working visa (I was on a tourist visa during my homestay and subsequent job search, which doesn’t count), and I’ve only been married for just over a year, so that rules me out. Another prerequisite is that you have been working for the same company for the last three years or more, which I have.

Secondly, Mami can’t get a mortgage since she is still in her first year working at the hospital and was a college student before that, so she doesn’t have the financial records necessary for such a large loan, yet. I could be wrong, but I think even a Japanese must have been at the same place of work for the last three years.

The only chance we have is to get a loan under both our names, which one bank we know said they can do. However, these are the Yakudoshi years, so it looks like we will have to wait (and waste more money on rent).

So what is Yakudoshi?

To quote the Japanese Cultural Center of Hawaii’s website,

Bad luck years are reffered to as yakudoshi, with yaku meaning “calamity” or “calamitous” and doshi signifying “year(s)”. These years are considered critical or dangerous because they are believed to bring bad luck or disaster.

Taking out a mortgage during the yakudoshi years is apparently destined to end in misery. At first I thought Mami was overexaggerating, but it seems many people agree with her, and when I think about it, I don’t walk under ladders, open an umbrella indoors, or break mirrors for the very same reasons.

So that means that I don’t really have any choice other than to wait for and hope I get permanent residency. It just frustrates me that someone who has been in Japan for three years, but married all that time is eligible for the PR visa, but I’m not. Such is life I guess.  

UPDATE! Read the latest on our house-hunting exploits: Getting a mortage in Japan